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		<title>By: gabriellaopaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>gabriellaopaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for taking the time to comment! I realize that this is a rather heated topic, and if anything, I think it has given us loads to consider in relationship to the future of wine writing. As Jim and Joe have both accurately pointed out, the definition of a wine writer has changed dramatically. However, what may come out of this, or so I hope, is that we have a better chance to evaluate what is quality wine writing, rather than the tool to facilitate the conversation. There are loads of poor print writers, as much as there are heaps of poor wine blog writers. If we can judge each one on their individual merits, as each is aimed at a different audience, it may give us pause on how we can better connect to the future consumer. Keep in mind, this transition and/or transformation is not limited to CWW. These questions are confronting all levels of communication in every sector, and I&#039;m truly excited to see how it evolves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for taking the time to comment! I realize that this is a rather heated topic, and if anything, I think it has given us loads to consider in relationship to the future of wine writing. As Jim and Joe have both accurately pointed out, the definition of a wine writer has changed dramatically. However, what may come out of this, or so I hope, is that we have a better chance to evaluate what is quality wine writing, rather than the tool to facilitate the conversation. There are loads of poor print writers, as much as there are heaps of poor wine blog writers. If we can judge each one on their individual merits, as each is aimed at a different audience, it may give us pause on how we can better connect to the future consumer. Keep in mind, this transition and/or transformation is not limited to CWW. These questions are confronting all levels of communication in every sector, and I&#39;m truly excited to see how it evolves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Budd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Budd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 17:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a member of the Circle of Wine Writers for 20 years and editor of its newsletter, Circle Update, since 1991. Over this time the Circle has evolved embracing lecturers and photographers and becoming increasing international. Personally I trust it will continue to evolve and that wine bloggers will become part of its membership.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suggest that Julie Arkell&#039;s remarks should be put in context – hitherto the Circle has been an association of people who earn a living either in part or wholly from communicating about wine. The rise of the net and the decline of print opportunities – both magazines and books is changing this dynamic. Few bloggers earn a living from blogging, so one of the criteria used previously to judge whether someone qualifies as a member of the Circle is probably no longer fully applicable.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Circle&#039;s committee is well aware of the change but as Wink Lorch points out in her post change takes time and Gabriella&#039;s post has, I think, moved this process along.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clearly there are blog and blogs and the fact of having a blog is unlikely to be sufficient to give someone membership. I think it is likely that it will be down to the quality of the blog, its audience etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;NB This post is my own view – I&#039;m not a member of the Circle&#039;s committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a member of the Circle of Wine Writers for 20 years and editor of its newsletter, Circle Update, since 1991. Over this time the Circle has evolved embracing lecturers and photographers and becoming increasing international. Personally I trust it will continue to evolve and that wine bloggers will become part of its membership.</p>
<p>I suggest that Julie Arkell&#39;s remarks should be put in context – hitherto the Circle has been an association of people who earn a living either in part or wholly from communicating about wine. The rise of the net and the decline of print opportunities – both magazines and books is changing this dynamic. Few bloggers earn a living from blogging, so one of the criteria used previously to judge whether someone qualifies as a member of the Circle is probably no longer fully applicable.    </p>
<p>The Circle&#39;s committee is well aware of the change but as Wink Lorch points out in her post change takes time and Gabriella&#39;s post has, I think, moved this process along.</p>
<p>Clearly there are blog and blogs and the fact of having a blog is unlikely to be sufficient to give someone membership. I think it is likely that it will be down to the quality of the blog, its audience etc.</p>
<p>NB This post is my own view – I&#39;m not a member of the Circle&#39;s committee.</p>
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		<title>By: 1winedude</title>
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		<dc:creator>1winedude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just getting around to reading this (shame on me!).  Late to the party...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, it&#039;s all rather... disturbing!  Perhaps the name should be changed to CWWEBITIATW (Circle of Wine Writers Excluding Bloggers If That Is All They Write).  Their stance does relegate blogs to a different (&amp; presumably lower) class of writing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which I find... odd.  Wonder what they&#039;d think of wine bloggers going on press junkets with print media journalists (like I&#039;m doing next week - if only now just to piss them off!)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just getting around to reading this (shame on me!).  Late to the party&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#39;s all rather&#8230; disturbing!  Perhaps the name should be changed to CWWEBITIATW (Circle of Wine Writers Excluding Bloggers If That Is All They Write).  Their stance does relegate blogs to a different (&#038; presumably lower) class of writing.</p>
<p>Which I find&#8230; odd.  Wonder what they&#39;d think of wine bloggers going on press junkets with print media journalists (like I&#39;m doing next week &#8211; if only now just to piss them off!)?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard M James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard M James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bravo&quot; Gabriella for sticking the Catalan boot in a bit, intelligently and energetically, claro. Although I suspect the point was simply to avoid continuing, erm, stretching the precedent of people publishing stuff for free; as thus who needs &quot;professional&quot; wine communicators in the old sense? He says, as someone who earns virtually bugger all from his wine website (which might well be expanded and connected to a &#039;proper&#039; blog at some point). But i do have plans, as always...&lt;br&gt;Cheers, salut.&lt;br&gt;Richard&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.winewriting.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.winewriting.com&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.winetravelguides.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.winetravelguides.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bravo&#8221; Gabriella for sticking the Catalan boot in a bit, intelligently and energetically, claro. Although I suspect the point was simply to avoid continuing, erm, stretching the precedent of people publishing stuff for free; as thus who needs &#8220;professional&#8221; wine communicators in the old sense? He says, as someone who earns virtually bugger all from his wine website (which might well be expanded and connected to a &#39;proper&#39; blog at some point). But i do have plans, as always&#8230;<br />Cheers, salut.<br />Richard<br /><a href="http://www.winewriting.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.winewriting.com</a>, <a href="http://www.winetravelguides.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.winetravelguides.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Over the course of evolution, man has found newer, and at times, better ways of accomplishing a goal. Through logic, creativity and community, we have excelled past old ways of thinking and doing, by embracing change, growth and innovation.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Man technologically progresses upon the achievements of those that came before. But the man of today is evolutionarily identical to the man using stone tools and smoke signals. Or, it is the technology that has evolved, not humankind.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Over the course of evolution, man has found newer, and at times, better ways of accomplishing a goal. Through logic, creativity and community, we have excelled past old ways of thinking and doing, by embracing change, growth and innovation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Man technologically progresses upon the achievements of those that came before. But the man of today is evolutionarily identical to the man using stone tools and smoke signals. Or, it is the technology that has evolved, not humankind.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wine Bloggers Have No Credibility &#187; Wine Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wine Bloggers Have No Credibility &#187; Wine Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have a little more respect for other wine journalists and do some research before making such silly statements. I&#8217;m sure there are a few blogs, though I know of none myself, that take direct money from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have a little more respect for other wine journalists and do some research before making such silly statements. I&#8217;m sure there are a few blogs, though I know of none myself, that take direct money from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems insane to me, Gabriella.....the prerequisite is that you are PAID for your wine writing, I guess? Even if it is a part-time endeavor. INSANE. Honestly, the caliber of writing that I see in many wine publications pales in comparison to some of the blog writing I&#039;ve seen. I agree with others that perhaps surrendering your membership will make your voice heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems insane to me, Gabriella&#8230;..the prerequisite is that you are PAID for your wine writing, I guess? Even if it is a part-time endeavor. INSANE. Honestly, the caliber of writing that I see in many wine publications pales in comparison to some of the blog writing I&#39;ve seen. I agree with others that perhaps surrendering your membership will make your voice heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Per, BKWine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Per, BKWine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, my guess is that it was a personal, not thought through comment. But if it can bring some debate around the issue, it may have been good.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But really, it is not an issue. The medium is rather irrelevant. And I don&#039;t think that what was said will be a policy of the CWW.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But it (wine blogging) does raise one issue: Journalistic associations will have to &quot;assess&quot; potential members in a different way in the future, won&#039;t they? Just blogging doesn&#039;t necessarily qualify for being a member of a journalists&#039; association. So there will have to be more vetting of some kind. Perhaps not a bad thing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When television arrived, how long time did it take for TV reporters to be considered as journalists? They were just talking, not writing, so what&#039;s the value in that. Right?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On another note, it is curious how many journalistic associations seem to be rather behind their times in accepting and adopting new technologies and new ways of communicating. CWW is certainly not the only one. One would have thought that people making a living out of writing (or trying to) would jump on new opportunities. Or is it that they see it as a threat?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or perhaps it is like many people&#039;s wine drinking: &quot;I like to drink what I usually drink.&quot; But the really interesting thing (in wine too) is to try the next thing, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, my guess is that it was a personal, not thought through comment. But if it can bring some debate around the issue, it may have been good.</p>
<p>But really, it is not an issue. The medium is rather irrelevant. And I don&#39;t think that what was said will be a policy of the CWW.</p>
<p>But it (wine blogging) does raise one issue: Journalistic associations will have to &#8220;assess&#8221; potential members in a different way in the future, won&#39;t they? Just blogging doesn&#39;t necessarily qualify for being a member of a journalists&#39; association. So there will have to be more vetting of some kind. Perhaps not a bad thing.</p>
<p>When television arrived, how long time did it take for TV reporters to be considered as journalists? They were just talking, not writing, so what&#39;s the value in that. Right?</p>
<p>On another note, it is curious how many journalistic associations seem to be rather behind their times in accepting and adopting new technologies and new ways of communicating. CWW is certainly not the only one. One would have thought that people making a living out of writing (or trying to) would jump on new opportunities. Or is it that they see it as a threat?</p>
<p>Or perhaps it is like many people&#39;s wine drinking: &#8220;I like to drink what I usually drink.&#8221; But the really interesting thing (in wine too) is to try the next thing, isn&#39;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: @alex_duran</title>
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		<dc:creator>@alex_duran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congratulations Gabriella! good Job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congratulations Gabriella! good Job!</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really  hope you get a response from them Gabriella! I&#039;m anxious to hear what they have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really  hope you get a response from them Gabriella! I&#39;m anxious to hear what they have to say.</p>
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